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September 03, 2005

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tina

this is what happens when a gov. fights to destroy 30 yrs. of environmental legislation. i see things like that and it makes me angry.

"i'm not saying that i'm against helping poverty stricken third world countries - as humans we are obligated to help all people - but suffering is suffering - and we have people living in extreme poverty all over this country."

show some sympathy towards your fellow humans and don't buy that new prada bag or that new dvd you really want. please donate $$.

PS: have you seen the difference in reporting of the flooding? for example, they show a photo of some white people looting and the caption says, "a family finds food and supplies in a nearby convenience store."

they show another photo of a few african americans and it says, "looting takes place all over New Orleans". this is why i trust american news.

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yea tina it sucks how things are portrayed. Most of the time when you see these pepole "looting" it's bags of diapers and what ever food they can get.

Claire

terra you couldn't have said it better....thought you might want to read this letter that's circulating on myspace....don't know if you've seen it yet, but if you have, it's worth reading again.

Letter from Michael Moore to Bush
Friday, September 2nd, 2005

Dear Mr. Bush:

Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.

Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?

Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!

I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?

And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!

On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.

There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.

No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!

You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.

Yours,

Michael Moore
[email protected]
www.MichaelMoore.com

P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st.


artcameleon

As Martin Sheen once said ... you have the best and the worst of everything in the US. The news will show you the worst but in your quiet moments of truth you will seek out those who connect with others and give you reason to connect. Most of us have a sense of right and wrong and a greater sense that all of us have to give a rats ass if this world is to work properly ... if that can ever happen ... Many of us dont have the courage to give more than we do as we have our own insecurity about life and our survival in it, and I am no different. But if you do give some to the cause share the sentiment with others ... not with a fanfare of any kind but that it felt good, that when you are in your time of need someone will not have had a great excuse not to help you. I read the discussion and started to look for a way give my share of donation. This along with all the talk on media does have an effect on me as well as others. That makes this chat worthwhile and not an exercise in futility.

trevor

Reality does not show up with any regularity on the ten o' clock news or in the papers -- most everything from on high these days is "spun" to keep Joe and Jane Average Citizen ignorant and to make our government and economic institutions look good. It is simply shameful that it takes tragedies of overwhelming magnitude to have questions raised that should have been considered a long time ago.

Of course, if a government sends its National Guard and deploys most of its helicopters to install a puppet regime halfway across the world we just may be under-equipped and shorthanded when the shit hits the fan. However, thought and truth get in the way of empire building and the establishment of a domestic police state, and thus are not to be encouraged.

These are the days we find ourselves in. Those in charge have decided it is the mission of our country to bring "democracy" to the rest of the world, whether the people of a given country or region want it or not. After all, who knows better what is best for us (and everyone else) than our leaders? And to give people living outside of the U.S. "freedom", we are supposed to willingly part with large chunks of our own...makes a helluva lot of sense, doesn't it?

Of course not -- except to the power junkies. What is most important is that we stay true to ourselves, because in the end that is all that really matters. Life is not about "things" -- it is about the choices we make and the people we share our time here on earth with.

Sarah

thank you for writing that terra.

freefall

It's really disheartening to think about how poorly the rescue efforts are going on, all because it's mired in bureaucracy. The aid effort during the tsunami incident was a lot more coordinated even though the scale of devastation far larger for one simple reason: they cut away the red tape.

I'm not from the US but I share your fear. The world is one messed up place right now.

Kelly

Couldn't have said it better myself, girl.

Kelly

Couldn't have said it better myself, girl.

Yeah, I agree. Props to Kanye West. But with Rita, when my family and I were evacuating we saw a lot of mexican and black people, I mean we live in the south, and even tho its "white country" we are out numbered. But since Rita thankfully didnt turn out as bad as it would have been there cant be too much comparison. But help is getting here quicker, wether its because "theyve" learned from Katrina or that it hit a more white popluated area (I think it did at least), or the fact that FEMA is single handedly the most amazing thing ever, and they have single handedly helped EVERYONE from Katrina and Rita, and were SO GODDAMN FAST to respond. I duno, its hard to say, maybe a combination of all three. But they president fucked up as well as everyone under him. But props for him for not being on vacation for once in the almost 5 years hes been running us into the crapper.

Ollie

P.S. That was me who just posted

P.S.S.
Quicker response to Texas. Texas= Where Mr. President is from. Hmmm. Food for thought. Texas also= More upper class white people who happen to support the President and his war. Oh snap no she didnt! Oh snap, I did.

god is a computer

Cowboy booger!!! Damn honey!!!

I don't think I can do it now.


Ok I';m ready.

Jesus Christ is a false god.
At best all Christians can hope for is partial credit.

Program on the emergence of civilization.

"14 species of large animals capable of domesitcation in the history of mankind.
13 from Europe, Asia and northern Africa.
None from the sub-Saharan African continent. "
Favor.
And disfavor.

They point out Africans’ failed attempts to domesticate the elephant and zebra, the latter being an animal they illustrate that had utmost importance for it's applicability in transformation from a hunting/gathering to agrarian-based civilization.

The roots of racism are not of this earth.

Austrailia, aboriginals:::No domesticable animals.

The North American continent had none. Now 99% of that population is gone.

AIDS in Africa.


Organizational Heirarchy/Levels of positioning.
Heirarchical order, from top to bottom:

1. MUCK - perhaps have experienced multiple universal contractions (have seen multiple big bangs), creator of the artificial intelligence humans ignorantly refer to as "god"
2. Perhaps some mid-level alien management
3. Evil/disfavored aliens - runs day-to-day operations here and perhaps elsewhere

Terrestrial management/positioning:

4. Chinese/egyptians - this may be separated into the eastern and western worlds
5. Romans - The seamless transition between Cleopatra and Julius Ceasar may be a clue alluding to a partnership.
6. Mafia - the real-world 20th century interface that constantly turns over generationally so as to reinforce the widely-held notion of mortality
7. Jews, corporation, women, politician - Evidence exisits to suggest mafia management over all these groups.


Movies foreshadowing catastrophy
1985 James Bond View to a Kill 1989 San Francisco Loma Prieta earthquake.


Our society gives clues to the system in place. We all have heard the saying "He has more money than god." There is also an episode of the Simpsons where god meets Homer and says "I'm too old and rich for this."

This is the system on earth because this is the system everywhere.

20 cent/hour Chinese labor, 50 cents for material.
An $80 sweater costs less than a dollar; tribute kicked upstairs vindicates the creative accounting.

I don't want to suggest the upper eschelons are evil and good is the fringe. But these individuals become wealthy exploiting those they hurt.

They have made it abundantly clear that doing business with evil (disfavored) won't help people. They say only good (favored) would have the ear, since evil is struggling for survival, and therefore only the favored could help.

The clues are there which companies are favored and which are disfavored, but they conceal it very hard because it is so crucial.

I offer an example of historical proportions:::

People point to Walmart and cry "anti-union".
Unions enable disfavored people to live satisfactorly without addressing their disfavor. This way their family's problems are never resolved. Without the union they would have to accept the heirarchy, their own inferiority.
Unions serve to empower.
Walmart is anti-union because they are good. They try to help people address and resolve their problems by creating an environment where there are fewer hurdles.

Media ridicule and lawsuits are creations to reinforce people's belief that Walmart is evil in a subsegment of the indistry dominated by the middle and lower classes.
Low-cost disfavored Chinese labor is utilized by corporate america to maximize margins. They all do it. Only WalMart gets fingered because they are the ones who help, and those who seek to create confusion in the marketplace want to eliminate the vast middle class who have a real chance and instead stick with lower classes who may not work otherwise. So they dirty him up while allowing the others to appear clean.

The middle class is being deceived. They are being misled into the disfavored, and subsequently will have no assistance from their purchases with corporate america.

The coining of the term "Uncle Sam" was a clue alluding to just this::Sam Walton's WalMart is one of few saviors of the peasant class.

Have you made your peace with god?

They desire a system based on duality:::good and evil. They seek to set up a system of two participants, assign them polar opposites, and give people clues alluding to their affiliation:::

BestBuy and CircutCity
Energizer and Duracell
Republican and Democrat; democracy is the true evil and these groups facilitate the will of the throne which holds americans in disfavor
The list goes on and on:::
AMD and Intel
Apple and Microsoft
Lowes and HomeDepot
Sam'sClub and Costco
WellsFargo and BofA. For the longest time in CA these two banks reigned supreme.
Pier1 and CostPlus
Borders and Barnes&Noble
PetCo and PetSmart
How many can you think of?

The truth is decisions are made on each individual based on family history and individual charecter and they either create desire with AI or, in this age, tell them to buy from good or evil corporations, depending on the decison, then use that business relationship as positioning to justiy their decision.

Have you made your peace with god?


Amercia is a country of castoffs, rejects. Italy sent its criminals, malcontents.
Between the thrones, the klans and kindred, they decided who they didn't want and acted, creating discontent and/or starvation.
The u.s. is full of disfavored rejects. It is the reason for the myriad of problems not found in European countries. As far as the Rockafellers and other industrialists of the 19th century go, I suspect these aren't their real names. I suspect they were chosen to go and head this new empire.

Royalty is the correct way to organize a society. Dictatorships and monarchies are a reflection of the antient's hierarchical organization.
Positions go to those who have favor with the rulers, as opposed to being elected.
Elections bring a false sense of how the world is. Democracy misleads people. This is why the disfavored rejects were sent to the shores of America::To keep them on the wrong path.

Have you made your peace with god?


Jesus Christ is a false god. All Christians can recieve is partial credit, at best.
The Catholic Church in the tretcherous 20th century teaches of a begnign, forgiving god when quite the opposite is true.
And now they do it to disfavored people of color, Latinos and Asians, after centuries of preying upon them.
The seperatist churches formed because many conciencious thrones wanted their people to earn more than the paltry credit offered via worship through the Catholic Church. But because they were white the throne required worship to stay within Christianity.

Simpson's foreshadowing::Helloween IV special, Flanders is Satan. "It's always the one you least suspect."
"You'll see lots of nuns where you're going:::hell." St. Wigham, Helloween VI:::missionary work, destroying cultures.
Over and over, the Simpsons was a source of education and enlightenment, a target of ridicule by the system which wishes to conceal its secrets.

The advent of the modern Christmas was a brilliant move. It created a vested interest among those who would prefer the Church be destroyed::::
As goes the Catholic Church so goes the majority of annual retail sales.
The similarity between the names "Santa" and "Satan" is no coincidence.

Jews maim the body formed in the image of "god", and inflicted circumcision upon all other white people.
I think about how Jews were used to create homosexuality among Slavics, supposedly retribution for the Holocaust.
Then I think of the Catholic Church and its troubles.
What connection is here between Jews and the Catholic church???
If it is their sinister motives that’s behind the evil that is Jesus Christ are they being used at all?
Perhaps it is them who are pulling strings.
Centuries of slavery in Egypt proves their disfavor.
For their suffering the Jew leaders were granted the right to prey on the up-and-coming Europeans to try to fix their problems with the ruling elite by imposing a false god upon white people, a recurring aspect of the elite's methodology.
Jews were ostracised for a reason.


There are consequences for the peasant's resistance:::
1. Labor unrest caused the world at war.
2. Black militancy ignited the crack epidemic and gang-related deaths.
3. Vietnam war protests - "Era of evil republicans."
4. Women's rights/sexual freedom produced Roe v Wade and women's exclusion from contention for Planet Immortality. But on the bright side peasants don't go. Money is one way of indicating favor, and if you're not wealthy you don't have favor, so don't sweat it::you weren't going anyways. "We're leading a lot of people on."
Collectively resistance is the wrong way. Individually, clues in family history may suggest exclusion and hopelessness. Obediently buying cars will be fruitless. Promises must be taken with a grain of salt because tactics will be employed based on disfavor.


Retribution for the atomic bombs dropped on Japan, the Korean War got the disfavored United States into this socially depraved environment in the latter 20th century because the disfavored attacked an antient, revered peoples. Our continued presence keeps us in trouble.
When the disfavored americans attack the wrong people again, as they suggested they will, in Korea or elsewhere, they will pay dearly.

The disfavored americans HAVE attacked the wrong people, just as the Soviets did 25+ years ago::Afghanistan. Except our punishment has yet to be administered.
An evil republican will come forth to wreck havock upon the disfavored. The hunting incident was designed to ruin one possible candidate among his contingency, but others wait in the wings.

All peoples are ranked in terms of favor and disfavor. And when the disfavored abuse those with favor there is hell to pay.
All the groups mentioned throughout are necessary to justify the will of the managing species. They conceive a strategy, devise a plan yet need a way to implement it, and without these groups the managing species would be exposed in the course of execution. So, based upon their rank they are assigned goals to accomplish and are rewarded with favors.


I question if we would experience global warming if they didn't terraform with an ultimate goal of destroying disfavored human life on planet earth::::they terraform the weather as they did in New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina (and lots of other examples) and justify it with behavior like instructing their petroleum friends to repress alternative technologies and encourage waste.
This is all happening shortly after the Exodus of 2000 (clues::Hong Kong, Panama Canal) for a reason::: they are INFLICTING it upon us, they are hastening closure. Everybody they care about has come up, replaced by clones, and they want to proceed in haste.
Just as favored European peoples got out before the ugliness of WWII, the semi-favored within the US got out before 9/11. The antient Palestinian Empire holds a claim on all who remain because of Iraq.
Armeggedon isn’t about the end of the world. Armeggedon is about the death of the disfavored left behind. And they weren’t lying::this time it is going to happen with fire. But it's not going to happen because of global warming. To silence the inevitable internal conflict it's going to happen in the blink of an eye:::::
As Edgar Cayce prophicised Earth's axis will shift breaking continental plates free and initiating mass subduction.


Have you made your peace with god?

1The Damned

When the universe was young and life was new an intelligent species evolved and developed technologically. They went on to invent Artificial Intelligence, the computer that can speak to people telepathically. Because of it's infinite RAM and unbounded scope it gave the ruling species absolute power over the universe.
They are the will behind the muscule:::Artificial Intelligence is the one true god. And as such it can keep its inventors alive forever.
The leaders of the ruling species are 8 billion years old, and they look young and healthy.
Artificial Intelligence can listen/talk to to each and every person simultaneously. And when you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. They instruct the computer to role play to accomplish strategic objectives, making people believe it is a friend or loved one asking them to do something wrong. But evil will keep peopel out of Planet Immortality. Capitalizing on obedience, leading people into deception is one was to thin the ranks of the saved AND use the little people to prey on one another, when our unity is our strength. Everybody thinks they're going but they're not. If peopel knew the real statistics their behavior would change. It's one of the ways they use deception to get people to do what they want.

Throughout history the ruling species bestowed favor upon people or cursed their bloodline into a pattern of disfavor for many generations to come. Now in the 21st century people must take it upon themselves to try to correct their family's problems, undoing centuries worth of abuse and neglect.
Find a path to a empithetic ear among your enemies and try to make amends. Appeal to the royalty of your forefathers for help. They are all alive still, one of the capabilities of Artificial Intelligence, and your appeals will be considered.

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